THE NEWGROUNDS WAR - DOCUMENTARY

THE NEWGROUNDS WAR
by Rina-chan

You can download via Mediafire by clicking the above link, or for a direct, no-BS download of the mp3 itself, just click here. This upload is courtesy of rtil; please be considerate of his bandwidth by right clicking and choosing "save target as".
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Clocking in at just under one hour long, it's finally done. I know the feuding has calmed down a bit since the time I called for submissions, but the issue is still relevant and probably always will be.

To give some background: At the beginning of the summer, I held an open call for audio submissions from any and all flash artists who had something to say about the rivalry between artists who spend time making high quality original submissions and artists who make quickly animated video game parodies. I gathered submissions from both groups and put everything together, divided into addressing the following issues:

+ What are the main factors which influence the popularity of a Flash submission?
+ Do you think the Newgrounds voting system is a fair assessment of the quality of a Flash, and why or why not?
+ What is your take on the feud and the reason it exists (or doesn't exist)?
+ Is there a solution?

Yes, it's long. I edited and cut as much as I could, but it's still nearly an hour, and I apologize. However, I suggest listening to it while doing something else like animating, studying, working, or even just stick it on your ipod for the next time you have a long commute. There's a lot of stuff in here.

BIG THANKS to the following artists for submitting:
The-Swain
Kirbopher
Billy Monks/MrChocobo
Aeonstars
Jimtopia
Elder99
Kenkaku
Weird0
RPGsrok
HadoukenDude
Rtil
Squeef/50vmp
CZ-Backlash
Jared Johnson
RabidSquirrelStudios
YungJazz
DonaldM
Gerkinman
SpedsOnAPlane
Omegafinal
Kliff
Anigen

All the background music was composed by my good friends DoctorAttitude and Nubbinownz and used with permission. You can find all these awesome songs for download at their audio portal pages! (The song at 40:20 was originally by Father of Death; Nubbinownz added the drums as part of a contest entry.)

Disclaimer for conspiracy theorists: This is intended to be an unbiased look at the current situation, which is why everyone who sent something in got their submission heard. I did not submit my own opinion nor will I state it here because 1) I can see both sides of the issue and 2) I want the documentary to allow each group to see where the other is coming from and let the listener come to their own conclusion on the matter. No, I don't expect that this will change anything on Newgrounds, nor was that my intention---I just thought it was an interesting debate and wanted to document it.

Check back soon for a bonus Easter egg!

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Rina-chan 2008-10-06 21:43:30

Okay guys mediafire upload is up.

JakBaronKing 2008-10-06 21:58:35

What about "Quicktime" like you did for your preview?

I just personally don't feel comfortable downloading off of any site I'm not familar with.

"Quick-Time" is used often and I feel most comfortable with that.

You don't HAVE to upload it to Quick-time...

I'll just have to miss out of listening.

But that doesn't mean I don't appreciate your work.

Rina-chan 2008-10-06 21:58:35

These sites are all safe and widely used for people to send large files... o_o I can't host it on my server because my bandwidth bills will most likely go through the roof.

JakBaronKing 2008-10-06 22:00:48

Oh wait sorry...perhaps it's that "Quick-Time" would kill your Bandwidth...

I'm sorry...I don't know all that stuff about computers...

Hmm....maybe Tom will allow it on Newgrounds.

omegafinal 2008-10-06 22:27:36

Just finished listening to it, and I"m happy with the all the responses and ideas that everyone had. I'm also glad to have helped. Thanks for the opportunity.

JT-Flamez 2008-10-06 22:30:52

Really great stuff there. I'm glad I got to listen to this and I think it brought out the better person in me. Why worry about what other people think when they aren't thinking the right way in the first place?

Great job you guys. ^_^

omegafinal 2008-10-06 23:21:11

Actually, now that I thought of it, some of the suggestions mentioned on there came true, such as the breaking down the genres and credit titles next to each author's names in a certain flash.

This may sound weird, but upload it to the Audio Portal, in parts if needed (or ask Tom to upload the whole thing for you), for instant access. What section and where, I do not know.

VACKenny 2008-10-07 01:17:09

I'm afraid to listen to it...

I mean, did my submission make ANY SENSE at all?

Rina-chan 2008-10-07 01:17:09

You did use the word "demographic" approximately 8 times in two minutes but I cut some of that out xD

W-P-S 2008-10-07 02:54:06

squeef,

anybody who believes this is important should be put into a gigantic chamber, and get gassed, for the sake of humanity

importance is relative etc. etc. but this is so fucking unimportant that it is beyond relativity

stop making excuses to be a lame piece of shit, squeef
you'd never convince me that you're not a lame piece of shit
i wouldn't be surprised if you are actually trying to convince yourself that you're not a lame piece of shit
which is a waste of time, because you could just.. you know.. STOP BEING A LAME PIECE OF SHIT

ZekeySpaceyLizard 2008-10-07 02:59:48

god damn squeef
do you even know what elitist means

Calvey 2008-10-07 05:31:38

This was actually very interesting to listen to, a good collection of differing opinions in a completely unbiased form. So good job.

It seems that the general opinion across the board is that the system on NGs is reasonable and serves it's purpose, it's the users not acting responsibility in their voting which is the problem. And that also contributes to the battle between original and parody flash.

I might also suggest that it may have been an idea to upload the file compressed as a zip or rar file as it could have cut down on the size for some people.

Rina-chan 2008-10-07 05:31:38

It still wouldn't have made much of a difference, though---any file that long is going to be big :/

W-P-S 2008-10-07 05:42:52

squeef is an emo dipshit fuck you SQUEEF

VACKenny 2008-10-07 11:52:53

Big words make me feel smart :(

JakBaronKing 2008-10-07 15:54:03

Thank You for Uploading an MP3 format.

^_^

CatFat 2008-10-07 16:22:47

i love you

MAYORMCHEESE 2008-10-07 16:52:04

DAMNIT GUYS CALM THE F**K DOWN

MAYORMCHEESE 2008-10-07 16:52:40

and yeah unlock 50vmp

thedo12 2008-10-07 17:01:51

okay i listend to the whole thing and Im going to give you my honest opinion,

I do think that parodys are overated, and i think its a fact that they are becuase parodys get a higher score and higher views then any other genere.
regardless of quality of writing, and storytelling .

Now im not saying all parodys lack good writing and storytelling, becuase they all dont, for example the popular show southpark has great writing and great storytelling, and even though it is essentialy parody. Another thing to point out in southpark, that even though it is a parody the situations they find themselves in are often original concepts.

SpedsonaPlane 2008-10-07 17:46:32

oh, thanks for including me! (My mic was by far the crapiest one)

AtomicBottle 2008-10-07 18:16:35

Just finished listening to it, and I found it very interesting.

Chickenfork 2008-10-07 18:25:54

Yes, it is the fault of the fanbase

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